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deep in the obama boehner negotiations, they were talking about a proposal with 800 billion in revenue that would come through a somewhat tax reformed process. right now we're seeing the exact opposite. president obama is sticking firm with what he offered in his budget release, or at least in his opening bid and boehner is kind of chasing over obama with more or less compromised proposals saying, why won't you work with me, give more, sacrifice more? look, we're early here and most of the people i talk with in washington are saying we're not going to get deep into this until mid-december at least. if we do a process of kind of incrementally coming from in between the two proposals, you could very easily imagine between obama and boehner on tacks is $1.2 trillion. that's where they end up on mandatory spending, 750. that wouldn't be a shocker either. boehner's opening bid here is not the bid of the side in the stronger position. it's a side desperately trying to get the press to compromise. >> now, michelle whark we don't see in the counteroffer is extension of payroll tax cut, extensi
deep in the obama boehner negotiations, they were talking about a proposal with 800 billion in revenue that would come through a somewhat tax reformed process. right now we're seeing the exact opposite. president obama is sticking firm with what he offered in his budget release, or at least in his opening bid and boehner is kind of chasing over obama with more or less compromised proposals saying, why won't you work with me, give more, sacrifice more? look, we're early here and most of the...
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>>> plus, watching the obama/boehner face-off last night, it was hard to believe what we were watching. the republicans are on the brink of winning the battle, in which the very rich will be asked to contribute nada. nothing. and everyone else will be asked to contribute everything. how did we get here? >>> also, silence of the lambs. where are the republican candidates for president? on this most critical washington negotiation in years. michele bachmann, of course, mindlessly doesn't want the debt ceiling increased under any circumstances. other than that, where is everybody? >>> and we learn today no group has been hit harder by the recession that continues than latinos or also may be the most important voting bloc for president obama come next november. can you hold them if things get worse? finally, finish tonight with a way out of the debt showdown. we start with the debt fight itself. jay carney, white house press secretary, joins us right now. thank you for joining us. it seems to me if you watched the fighting today, the state of play is the republicans under boehner want a tw
>>> plus, watching the obama/boehner face-off last night, it was hard to believe what we were watching. the republicans are on the brink of winning the battle, in which the very rich will be asked to contribute nada. nothing. and everyone else will be asked to contribute everything. how did we get here? >>> also, silence of the lambs. where are the republican candidates for president? on this most critical washington negotiation in years. michele bachmann, of course,...
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as for boehner's promise of a face off over the debt ceiling, the white house said that is out of the question. >> let me reiterate what our position is. it's unequivocal. we will not negotiate with republicans in congress over congress's responsibility to pay the bills that congress has racked up. period. >> with battle lines drawn, who blinks first and how will action on syria affect the funding fight. according to reuters it makes a fiscal deal more likely as they provide a convenient excuse for republicans to agree to short-term extensions that provide two or three months worth of government funding. others are not so sure. cnbc tweets could sober war debate ease fiscal fights? is the ex-produce adviser said no. could they vote with potus on syria and they feel they oppose him even more. policy analyst "the washington post" ezra kline. ezra, it's obviously a fluid situation, but you are in washington. i wonder what you make of the two reads and how they embolden or cal the gop in looming talks with the white house. >> we don't know. we in washington do not know. my guess is that s
as for boehner's promise of a face off over the debt ceiling, the white house said that is out of the question. >> let me reiterate what our position is. it's unequivocal. we will not negotiate with republicans in congress over congress's responsibility to pay the bills that congress has racked up. period. >> with battle lines drawn, who blinks first and how will action on syria affect the funding fight. according to reuters it makes a fiscal deal more likely as they provide a...
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and president obama and speaker boehner publicly say they don't want it to happen. this is the first time we actually let one of these happen. what is stopping the sequester from being stopped? there is one thing, one single policy decision that lies at the heart of the washington crises. it is the same thing that made the super committee fail and the grand bargain fail and that led to this debacle that led to this sequester. it is the republicans' insistence, combined with the utter refusal to make it part of a deal. it is true, house republicans did declare to let them raise the taxes by 6 billion, grover norquist agreed to score that one as a tax cut. before that happened, they rejected that one as a debt reduction. in the last four years we cut about 1.4 trillion in spending and raised about 50 billion in taxes. taxes have been about a quarter of our total debt reduction. but this is no more. the tax debate is completely over. they prefer the sequester to replacement that includes even a dollar, even a hint, a shadow of revenue. in 2011, when the sequester was c
and president obama and speaker boehner publicly say they don't want it to happen. this is the first time we actually let one of these happen. what is stopping the sequester from being stopped? there is one thing, one single policy decision that lies at the heart of the washington crises. it is the same thing that made the super committee fail and the grand bargain fail and that led to this debacle that led to this sequester. it is the republicans' insistence, combined with the utter refusal to...
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and in it, they quoted this exchange between speaker boehner and president obama. mr. boehner said he wanted to deal along the lines what the two men had negotiated, summer of 2011, in the fight over raising the debt ceiling. "you missed your opportunity on that," the president told him. cold. but what we know right now, what we know from that is that john boehner wishes he could go back in time, get in the time machine, go back to 2011, and get the deal that president obama offered him then. mr. boehner wants another bite at that 2011 deal, because back then, the president was offering to stop at $800 billion in new taxes. my prediction here right now is that in a few weeks or a few months, republicans are going to wish they could go back to 2012, right now, and get the deal president obama offered them a week ago, which only raised about $1.2 trillion in taxes. because here's what i think is going to happen now. if we get a small deal before we go over the fiscal cliff, either because harry reid and mitch mcconnell come to a deal in the senate, or because democrats j
and in it, they quoted this exchange between speaker boehner and president obama. mr. boehner said he wanted to deal along the lines what the two men had negotiated, summer of 2011, in the fight over raising the debt ceiling. "you missed your opportunity on that," the president told him. cold. but what we know right now, what we know from that is that john boehner wishes he could go back in time, get in the time machine, go back to 2011, and get the deal that president obama offered...
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and then if you watched them, john boehner, speaker boehner looked like a defeated man. it was like saying okay, we are going to come to the table with you. and president obama, despite speaking about compromised, it wasn't a very comprise-y style of speech. it was clear that he knew he had the leverage. he wasn't going to accept anything that didn't end with taxes being part of the final solution here. >> well, jonathan capeheart, boehner knows that the pressure is all on him. the senate has already passed a bill that does what the president wants to do in taxation. it reduces the taxation below the top rates and the house can either pass that bill or not pass it. and if they don't pass it, what will happen in terms of january 1st ratgoing up is on them. >> it's on them. the president said in his remarks today that you know, his plan's not written in stone. the one he campaigned on. he's willing to hear any good idea from anyone. but it's unclear whether john boehner is going to be able to come to the table with an alternative idea that they can hammer out in time for a
and then if you watched them, john boehner, speaker boehner looked like a defeated man. it was like saying okay, we are going to come to the table with you. and president obama, despite speaking about compromised, it wasn't a very comprise-y style of speech. it was clear that he knew he had the leverage. he wasn't going to accept anything that didn't end with taxes being part of the final solution here. >> well, jonathan capeheart, boehner knows that the pressure is all on him. the senate...
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but obama can't seem to get boehner to say yes, i claim victory on this one. and it is remarkable that that is the second time he offered cuts to social security benefits, and boehner is not willing to accept it. >> what are the white house's terms once you hit january one. and will all the same stuff be on the table? or will the president simply demand a fix in the tax rates as a starting point, pass the bill that fixes the tax rates first, then you can come up here and talk about the other stuff. >> it is a great point. and you know one of the understated aspects of this whole negotiation process is how much unemployment insurance, the payroll tax cut, and infrastructure spending has kept the white house at the table. the administration wants those three things. now they have gone away from the payroll tax code a little bit. but they want the economic stimulus, they know there is an advantage to it. once they're done, once you pass the cliff how much are they going to fight for them? obviously there was a point in the president including in his pare down tod
but obama can't seem to get boehner to say yes, i claim victory on this one. and it is remarkable that that is the second time he offered cuts to social security benefits, and boehner is not willing to accept it. >> what are the white house's terms once you hit january one. and will all the same stuff be on the table? or will the president simply demand a fix in the tax rates as a starting point, pass the bill that fixes the tax rates first, then you can come up here and talk about the...
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but since obama took office, republicans have changed their mind on the idea that government spending can create jobs. and when you ask mitt romney if he agrees with them, he does. he says it can't work. >> government doesn't create jobs. it's the private sector that creates jobs. >> he even pokes fun at fellow republican newt gingrich for claiming congress helped create jobs. >> congressmen taking responsibility or taking credit for helping create jobs is like al gore taking credit for the internet. >> but at the same time romney's become what greg sergeant at the "washington post" and paul klum with "the new york times" are calling a weaponized keynesian. you can spend more on the military to create more jobs and no matter what you don't cut that federal spending, right? >> now, i'm not going to cut $1 trillion in the first year. and i heard a question, why not? and the reason is, taking $1 trillion out of a $15 trillion economy would cause our economy to shrink, would put a lot of people out of work. >> so he can be anti-keynesian in his general rhetoric but when things get specifi
but since obama took office, republicans have changed their mind on the idea that government spending can create jobs. and when you ask mitt romney if he agrees with them, he does. he says it can't work. >> government doesn't create jobs. it's the private sector that creates jobs. >> he even pokes fun at fellow republican newt gingrich for claiming congress helped create jobs. >> congressmen taking responsibility or taking credit for helping create jobs is like al gore taking...
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in a speech in the rose garden today, president obama vowed that after being informed by speaker john boehner last week that the house would not vote on immigration reform this year, the president will be taking matters into his own hands. >> i take executive action only when we have a serious problem, a serious issue, and congress chooses to do nothing. and in this situation, the failure of house republicans to pass a darn bill is bad for our security, it's bad for our economy, and it's bad for our future. i've also directed secretary johnson and attorney general holder to identify additional actions my administration can take on our own. within my existing legal authorities, to do what congress refuses to do and fix as much of our immigration system as we can. if congress will not do their job, at least we can do ours. >> those comments came only a few hours after the president sent a letter updating congress on the administration's efforts to help control the over 50,000 unaccompanied minors who have arrived at the country's southwest border from central america, just since october
in a speech in the rose garden today, president obama vowed that after being informed by speaker john boehner last week that the house would not vote on immigration reform this year, the president will be taking matters into his own hands. >> i take executive action only when we have a serious problem, a serious issue, and congress chooses to do nothing. and in this situation, the failure of house republicans to pass a darn bill is bad for our security, it's bad for our economy, and it's...
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the voters had spoken and obama care as speaker boehner said is the law of the land. republicans weren't super happy about that message. they thought boehner was getting a little squishy, giving up a fight. that election we just had. the one where voters re-elected the obama care guy, the one that had obama in his name, that was but a flesh wound. today boehner wrote an op-ed to the cincinnati inquirer which begins with, quote, president obama has won re-election but as was the case before the election, obama care has to go. if you read on in his op-ed, things get a little strange. boehner went on to share the big plan which is, quote, over the past couple of years i have noted there are essentially three major routes to repeal of the president's law. the courts, the presidential election process and the congressional oversight process. with two of those three routes having come up short, the third and final one becomes more important than ever. vigor us oversight of the health care law by the house can be expected and, in fact, is already under way. one of these thin
the voters had spoken and obama care as speaker boehner said is the law of the land. republicans weren't super happy about that message. they thought boehner was getting a little squishy, giving up a fight. that election we just had. the one where voters re-elected the obama care guy, the one that had obama in his name, that was but a flesh wound. today boehner wrote an op-ed to the cincinnati inquirer which begins with, quote, president obama has won re-election but as was the case before the...
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in two hours they will reconvene, once again strip out obama care language and send boehner another clean spending bill. the man with the greatest power to avoid a government shutdown by putting a clean cr on the floor and letting it pass also has the most to lose by doing so. this morning the beleaguered speaker took to the floor to urge the senate to pass the house bill. >> the american people are worried about their job. they are worried about their incomes rising because they are all under pressure. >> worried about losing your job, feeling under pressure. sound like anybody you know? joining me today, politics editor at business insider josh barrow, executive editor at msnbc.com richard wolffe, and also joining us is nbc capitol hill correspondent luke russert. luke, this feels like we're all sort of getting a peek inside an insane asylum. seems simple. john boehner could walk out, put a clean cr on the floor and it will pass. what is the likelihood he will simply do that? >> it's an interesting question, joy. as of right now, i would say unlikely today from where we stand. i will gi
in two hours they will reconvene, once again strip out obama care language and send boehner another clean spending bill. the man with the greatest power to avoid a government shutdown by putting a clean cr on the floor and letting it pass also has the most to lose by doing so. this morning the beleaguered speaker took to the floor to urge the senate to pass the house bill. >> the american people are worried about their job. they are worried about their incomes rising because they are all...
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so now boehner's arguing for no tax increases at all, but obama is sort of held to that same deal and is trying to continue to offer it to boehner. >> let's listen to what the president said about the tea party and the unwillingness to compromise. >> now, i realize that a lot of the new members of congress and i don't see eye to eye on many issues. but we were each elected by some of the same americans for some of the same reasons. yes, many want government to start living within its means, and many are fed up with a system in which the deck seems stacked against middle class americans in favor of the wealthiest few. but do you know what people are fed up with most of all? they're fed up with a town where compromise has become a dirty word. >> howard, he never said the words "tea party." he kept saying new members of congress. i wonder who he was talking about. >> well, i don't know why he didn't just come out and say it, but a couple things here. first of all, i want to say that with the "huffington post," we're reporting that many of the websites in congress, the members of congress
so now boehner's arguing for no tax increases at all, but obama is sort of held to that same deal and is trying to continue to offer it to boehner. >> let's listen to what the president said about the tea party and the unwillingness to compromise. >> now, i realize that a lot of the new members of congress and i don't see eye to eye on many issues. but we were each elected by some of the same americans for some of the same reasons. yes, many want government to start living within...
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later, speaker boehner admitted that president obama won this round because boehner and the house republicans had nothing. that's his word, nothing. they didn't have a strategy. and they dependent have the votes. >> you didn't have the political leverage to fight the president on? >> no, it's the fact that we didn't have 218 votes. if we don't have 218 votes, you have nothing. we've seen that before. we'll see it again. >> joining me now is msnbc policy analyst ezra klein. he's also building a new news site at vox media. ezra, so john boehner did the right thing. let's give the guy credit. >> sure. i think it's worth saying, we're doing nothing for the unemployed, we're doing nothing about climate change. we're celebrating that the majority party in the house of representatives put forward no votes but did not actually block the debt ceiling increase that would have mutt the global economy into a global tail spin. not only did john boehner do the right thing, he's also right about the politics. something you're seeing here is the weakening of the conservative wing of the republican party in t
later, speaker boehner admitted that president obama won this round because boehner and the house republicans had nothing. that's his word, nothing. they didn't have a strategy. and they dependent have the votes. >> you didn't have the political leverage to fight the president on? >> no, it's the fact that we didn't have 218 votes. if we don't have 218 votes, you have nothing. we've seen that before. we'll see it again. >> joining me now is msnbc policy analyst ezra klein....
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than congress. >> horrible numbers for congress. >> a pitiful 14%. >> pretty bad numbers on john boehner's report card. >> the debt ceiling is a dangerous game. >> i don't see that as a winner for them. >> don't fight battles you can't win. >> it is a troubled time for the party. >> let's stop for a second. >> let's make clear decisions. >> the republican strategy. >> stop talking about rape. >> don't fight battles you can't win. >> it is a troubled time for the party, get something done. >> we have to be the party of new solutions, we're not just going to be the party of no. >> it is groundhog day. >> the conservatives, the retreat, we've come a long way since. >> i'm ezra klein in for lawrence o'donnell, one of the great moments, when redford having just won the election, sits down on the bed taking it all in. the next few words are not just to ever film junky, pretty much to every political candidate. >> what do we do now? >> what do we do now? that is always the question, what do you do now when you have to govern? but it is not just a question that affects winners, sometimes losers of
than congress. >> horrible numbers for congress. >> a pitiful 14%. >> pretty bad numbers on john boehner's report card. >> the debt ceiling is a dangerous game. >> i don't see that as a winner for them. >> don't fight battles you can't win. >> it is a troubled time for the party. >> let's stop for a second. >> let's make clear decisions. >> the republican strategy. >> stop talking about rape. >> don't fight battles you...
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there's an advantage to the fact boehner has moved his people to have a fight on the sequester. obama and him are going to have a fight on the sequester and hopefully we'll figure this out before we get to the debt ceiling or something we can't get back out of. there is a sense with a harm mitigation strategy being attempted by john boehner here to try to get his people focused on something, where even if it goes wrong and there's no deal, we don't crash the global economy as a consequence. >> it reminds me of the late 1800s and 1900s when leeching was the preferred medical treatment, bleed it out, bleed it out. that's effectively the strategy taken, vis a vis legislating. >> i don't think anybody thinks what we're doing works. >> worse than leeching, ezra klein is on the record. not quite a hell storm, but worse than leaching. >> technical way of grading it. >> thank you, as always, ezra. >> thank you. >>> coming up, a level-headed, level-headed john mccain talks immigration in arizona, but will the senator bring that reasonableness back to washington? we'll discuss the border
there's an advantage to the fact boehner has moved his people to have a fight on the sequester. obama and him are going to have a fight on the sequester and hopefully we'll figure this out before we get to the debt ceiling or something we can't get back out of. there is a sense with a harm mitigation strategy being attempted by john boehner here to try to get his people focused on something, where even if it goes wrong and there's no deal, we don't crash the global economy as a consequence....
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so but this is the third iteration of their package in the obama/boehner talks. so they went through one compromise with boehner then the another. and then that is now going to be the starting point. but the thing that will stay with liberals here is john boehner. speaker john boehner cannot take yes for an answer. he wasn't able to do it in 2011, something republicans now quite regret. he wasn't able to do it in late 2012. now he's come out already and said basically, no, i'm sorry, i can't do anything on taxes no matter what you give me. and so here's what happens now. the white house looks like they're coming out and offering a compromise. they look like they are trying to get something to done to replace a sequester. they're having dinners with republican senators. here's boehner before actually even seeing the whole budget who says absolutely not. and this for the republican party is very, very, very bad politics. because they look like they are standing in the way of any kind of deal. >> he's right. >> he is. at the end of the day, happen this president pro
so but this is the third iteration of their package in the obama/boehner talks. so they went through one compromise with boehner then the another. and then that is now going to be the starting point. but the thing that will stay with liberals here is john boehner. speaker john boehner cannot take yes for an answer. he wasn't able to do it in 2011, something republicans now quite regret. he wasn't able to do it in late 2012. now he's come out already and said basically, no, i'm sorry, i can't do...
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. >> this is president obama's number one political agenda. >> boehner got a little dramatic when he was asked about immigration reform. >> oh, no, this is too hard. >> it may sound melodramatic. >> to fix as much of the immigration as i can on my own without ng
. >> this is president obama's number one political agenda. >> boehner got a little dramatic when he was asked about immigration reform. >> oh, no, this is too hard. >> it may sound melodramatic. >> to fix as much of the immigration as i can on my own without ng
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as it stands right now the white house has end kaltsed it will not respond to speaker boehner's offer unless the gop agrees to raise top marginal tax rates. the president did do a little explaining over twitter yesterday. asked, is there a minimum ratio of revenue increases to spending cuts that you're looking for or simply a balanced approach? the president responded -- don't expect 100% my budget, room to negotiate. if you include $1 trillion plus in cuts already made, rough balance between revenue and cuts does trick. i'm having a hard time translating the president's tweets. translation, i won't get everything i want but at least -- but i want at least as much in revenue as in cuts. he was asked as a homeowner, i worry deductions for homeowners are at risk. is that the case. the president replied breaks for middle class important for families and economy. if top rates don't go up, danger middle-class deductions get hit. the gop is holding middle-class taxes hostage i'm not. joining me is msnbc policy analyst and columnist for "the washington post" ezra klein. it is great to have y
as it stands right now the white house has end kaltsed it will not respond to speaker boehner's offer unless the gop agrees to raise top marginal tax rates. the president did do a little explaining over twitter yesterday. asked, is there a minimum ratio of revenue increases to spending cuts that you're looking for or simply a balanced approach? the president responded -- don't expect 100% my budget, room to negotiate. if you include $1 trillion plus in cuts already made, rough balance between...
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but, of course, everybody is talking about shared sacrifice from president obama to john boehner to governor herbert of utah. their version of fixing the fiscal cliff is that acceptable shared version. >> reed wilson, thank you for being with me. i appreciate it. we're going to be right back on msnbc right after this. [ female announcer ] you know exactly what it takes to make them feel better. ♪ you make me happy [ female announcer ] that's why you choose children's tylenol. the same brand your mom trusted for you when you were young. ♪ how much i love you [ humming ] [ female announcer ] children's tylenol, the #1 brand of pain and fever relief recommended by pediatricians and used by moms decade after decade. [ humming ] bp has paid overthe people of bp twenty-threeitment to the gulf. billion dollars to help those affected and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches and gulf are open, and many areas are reporting their best tourism seasons in years. and bp's also committed to america. we support nearly 250,000 jobs and invest more here than anywhere else. we're working to fuel amer
but, of course, everybody is talking about shared sacrifice from president obama to john boehner to governor herbert of utah. their version of fixing the fiscal cliff is that acceptable shared version. >> reed wilson, thank you for being with me. i appreciate it. we're going to be right back on msnbc right after this. [ female announcer ] you know exactly what it takes to make them feel better. ♪ you make me happy [ female announcer ] that's why you choose children's tylenol. the same...
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president obama's latest offer to john boehner has 1.2 trillion in taxes. that is half as much, less than half than simpson bowles, and less than a quarter of what is in -- simply going over the fiscal cliff. i think the tax increases are too little. they are what they are. and it's something to remember as we reach the edge and you hear a lot of complaints about the tax side of obama's offer. what he's asking for in terms of tax increases is not that radical, it's way less than if we don't reach a deal. contrary to what you may have heard, republicans want to raise taxes too. shocker, right? >> the superficial take on this, the argument between democrats and republicans is between democrats who love taxes, just want to tax everything. and republicans who totally grover norquist taxes, they hate them, that is not true. to a degree that kind of disturbs me, actually, the two parties mostly agree on keeping the bush tax cuts. up to $250,000 in income, which is a lot of income. republicans and democrats want to keep all the bush tax cuts. that's way more than
president obama's latest offer to john boehner has 1.2 trillion in taxes. that is half as much, less than half than simpson bowles, and less than a quarter of what is in -- simply going over the fiscal cliff. i think the tax increases are too little. they are what they are. and it's something to remember as we reach the edge and you hear a lot of complaints about the tax side of obama's offer. what he's asking for in terms of tax increases is not that radical, it's way less than if we don't...
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. >>> boehner v. obama. let's play hard ball. good evening, i'm steve kornacki in for chris matthews. leading off a potentially historic legal and political confrontation. reports hinted that john boehner was considering suing the president of the united states. the charge, that president obama is illegally ignoring congress and abusing his oath of office. and today, boehner made it official. >> are you planning to initiate a lawsuit against the obama administration and president obama over executive actions?
. >>> boehner v. obama. let's play hard ball. good evening, i'm steve kornacki in for chris matthews. leading off a potentially historic legal and political confrontation. reports hinted that john boehner was considering suing the president of the united states. the charge, that president obama is illegally ignoring congress and abusing his oath of office. and today, boehner made it official. >> are you planning to initiate a lawsuit against the obama administration and president...
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this is the reality that john boehner is dealing with. the more rational move right now, the better decision is to actually fight for a debt limit battle, maybe even put default on the line to get concessions from the white house, you and i discussed it before. doesn't seem like the best play for the republicans, but for the speaker establishment of the republicans that seems to be the best play on the table. >> and much higher factor, orders of magnitude, running through that deadline -- precisely that reason that i think that john boehner thinks he has more leverage there. but i just can't see under any circumstances the white house negotiating towards delaying obama care, so that seems more ill-fated. thank you very much. let's turn to congressman chris van hollen, ranking member. what is the game plan here? >> well, chris, we don't know what speaker boehner is going to do at this point. he has been very close-lipped about it. the question is if he will try to attach another unrelated provision to the bill to keep the government runnin
this is the reality that john boehner is dealing with. the more rational move right now, the better decision is to actually fight for a debt limit battle, maybe even put default on the line to get concessions from the white house, you and i discussed it before. doesn't seem like the best play for the republicans, but for the speaker establishment of the republicans that seems to be the best play on the table. >> and much higher factor, orders of magnitude, running through that deadline --...
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of the john boehner lawsuit against president obama. >> genuine concerns about executive power. >> this isn't about me suing the president. >> or another way to placate the base. >> this thing smells. >> you're going to sue me for doing my job. >> so sue me. no, don't sue me. >> house republicans will waste time and taxpayer dollars. >> you'll never guess what boehner is suing obama over, unless you guessed obamacare. >> he spent four years trying to kill it. >> the president, in my opinion, has gone too far. >> and now they are suing the president to implement it faster. >> if i were president obama, i would countersue the house leadership for its gross incompetence. >> their big idea has been to sue me. >> i urge you to change course. this is supposed to be a deliberative body. >> the gop scandal monger in chief finally got called out. >> it is time for this committee to stop serving as a stage for political theater. >> people are not interested in lawsuits. >> they're not going to win with this suit, they just want to smear him. >>> good evening. i am ari melber. lawrence has the nig
of the john boehner lawsuit against president obama. >> genuine concerns about executive power. >> this isn't about me suing the president. >> or another way to placate the base. >> this thing smells. >> you're going to sue me for doing my job. >> so sue me. no, don't sue me. >> house republicans will waste time and taxpayer dollars. >> you'll never guess what boehner is suing obama over, unless you guessed obamacare. >> he spent four years...
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we have to get to where the boehner-obama discussions were. >> i'd be surprised if he said that. >> unconvincing. maya, what would you ask of whom? >> senator shumer. >> he's on "meet the press" today. >> yes. the question now is to leadership. the supercommittee was a product of leadership, it didn't work out. what are they going to do next? we can't sit back for a year and do nothing. we need to take action. proactive action. it needs to go to leadership, what are they going to put in place to make sure plans are considered and move forward. >> i'll play chuck schumer. that's what we come back to. >> he says we should only raise taxes on millionaires and above, not even $250. two parties agree on much more than they disagree. in terms of taxes. >> perfect. >> that's the point. you just don't have that much leverage. what democrats have leverage on is we want to let the upper income tax cuts expire. they are $800 billion. that's the kind of number we should be talking about. it's a more rational starting point, i think. >> maria, what would you ask? >> i would like to have a sit-down with colin
we have to get to where the boehner-obama discussions were. >> i'd be surprised if he said that. >> unconvincing. maya, what would you ask of whom? >> senator shumer. >> he's on "meet the press" today. >> yes. the question now is to leadership. the supercommittee was a product of leadership, it didn't work out. what are they going to do next? we can't sit back for a year and do nothing. we need to take action. proactive action. it needs to go to...
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. >>> john boehner says president obama is trying to annihilate the republican party. but up next, i'll explain why the gop is kind of doing a good job of it itself. and on that path, some republicans are trying to gerrymander it. some are saying we can't change the rules of the presidential election just because we lost one. meanwhile, threatening to filibuster, a deal was reached. others say it doesn't reform anything. >>> and crazy things happening in washington, we'll let you weigh in on the scandal of the week. ♪ hi dad. many years from now, when the subaru is theirs... hey. you missed a spot. ...i'll look back on this day and laugh. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. [ male announcer ] how do you turn an entrepreneur's dream... ♪ into a scooter that talks to the cloud? ♪ or turn 30-million artifacts... ♪ into a high-tech masterpiece? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it. barrow island has got rare kangaroos. ♪ chevron has been developing energy here for decades. we need to protect their e
. >>> john boehner says president obama is trying to annihilate the republican party. but up next, i'll explain why the gop is kind of doing a good job of it itself. and on that path, some republicans are trying to gerrymander it. some are saying we can't change the rules of the presidential election just because we lost one. meanwhile, threatening to filibuster, a deal was reached. others say it doesn't reform anything. >>> and crazy things happening in washington, we'll let...
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obama is at $1.4 trillion in taxes. boehner is maybe 8 one billion. boehner was at 600 billion. but a major sticking point is not a number at all. a major sticking point is the debt ceiling you. might remember the debt ceiling, the dumb, anachronistic thing we have in which congress has to vote for the stuff that it has already bought. and if the vote doesn't go through, then america's economy goes boom. yeah. that one. that has become a huge problem in these negotiations. and for two reasons. first, a lot of republicans outside the negotiations on the hill, they have convinced themselves the debt court of appealing is their secret weapon. the way they see the negotiations going is this. mr. obama has leverage now because he really doesn't care if you go over the fiscal cliff or curb or slope, or whatever you want to call it. but in february we will hit the debt ceiling. and if we break through the debt ceiling we will unleash an economic hell on this nation. and no president would allow that, right? so that is republican leverage, as they see it. unlike them, obama is not willi
obama is at $1.4 trillion in taxes. boehner is maybe 8 one billion. boehner was at 600 billion. but a major sticking point is not a number at all. a major sticking point is the debt ceiling you. might remember the debt ceiling, the dumb, anachronistic thing we have in which congress has to vote for the stuff that it has already bought. and if the vote doesn't go through, then america's economy goes boom. yeah. that one. that has become a huge problem in these negotiations. and for two reasons....
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it's plausible john boehner and barack obama could come to a deal. what's not plausible is they come to a deal the tea party signs off on. that's what makes it so hard to solve. it's not just obama care we've left. remember the other big thing that ted cruz was on, making d.c. listen. that was the two things. the big point was you got to make d.c. listen. ted cruz is now personally less popular an obama care. the republicans in congress are less popular than obama care. the shutdown is wildly unpopular. yet, no one seems to be listening. we've left both of the original things it behind. now we're just talking about something. they just need some way to not seem like they're losing that the tea party will accept. >> and we need to figure out what's going to happen on october 17th. i guess in combination with all of this disarray, the fact that you have people in the house, republicans in the house, not just ted yoho, but also richard burton, not in the house, but in congress saying, you know, is defaulting on the debt such a big deal? maybe it's going
it's plausible john boehner and barack obama could come to a deal. what's not plausible is they come to a deal the tea party signs off on. that's what makes it so hard to solve. it's not just obama care we've left. remember the other big thing that ted cruz was on, making d.c. listen. that was the two things. the big point was you got to make d.c. listen. ted cruz is now personally less popular an obama care. the republicans in congress are less popular than obama care. the shutdown is wildly...
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while talks between speaker boehner and president obama over the past three days have been shrouded in secrecy, we've learned there have been two offers put on the table. the white house sent boehner a proposal on monday calling for $1.4 trillion in tax revenue, $200 billion less than the original offer. might that seal the deal? >> the president's called for $1.4 trillion worth of revenue. that cannot pass the house or the senate. >> okay then. the speaker's office responded with a deal of its own. yesterday it included precisely the same amount of revenue from the original proposal, $800 billion, which indicates there may have been concessions else where. a democratic source close to the white house tells nbc news the proposal included a permanent extension of the bush tax cuts. that is highly unlikely to fly, given the hard line the president has taken on tax rates and what he told barbara walters in an interview airing this friday on "20/20." >> taxes are going to go up one way or another and the key is to make sure taxes go up on high-end individuals like you and me, barbara, we c
while talks between speaker boehner and president obama over the past three days have been shrouded in secrecy, we've learned there have been two offers put on the table. the white house sent boehner a proposal on monday calling for $1.4 trillion in tax revenue, $200 billion less than the original offer. might that seal the deal? >> the president's called for $1.4 trillion worth of revenue. that cannot pass the house or the senate. >> okay then. the speaker's office responded with a...
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boehner and obama have negotiated, but those fell apart twice. and so, i mean, having the president in the room here, especially when you're just dealing with a senate bill and perhaps going through the house, i don't know how helpful that is given it's more so his vice president, joe biden, who has experience in hammering out these giant negotiations. >> that final vote in the senate was 59 to 41, which means the democrats definitely picked up some republicans there. i don't have the names of the republicans just yet. we'll get that during the break. jay newton-small of "time" magazine and ezra cline of "the washington post," i want to thank you very much for joining me tonight. >> thank you. >>> coming up, when the august 2nd deadline arrives, if there is still no deal, will president obama invoke the 14th amendment? he says he won't do it, but the question keeps coming up. >>> and later, the kings of late night and the writers of the late night comics monologues find the debt ceiling is where the humor is this week. ♪ [ male announcer ] how
boehner and obama have negotiated, but those fell apart twice. and so, i mean, having the president in the room here, especially when you're just dealing with a senate bill and perhaps going through the house, i don't know how helpful that is given it's more so his vice president, joe biden, who has experience in hammering out these giant negotiations. >> that final vote in the senate was 59 to 41, which means the democrats definitely picked up some republicans there. i don't have the...
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. >> boehner's surprise is in part because this is a different obama he is now negotiating with. and it is not just that obama won an election. he has often compromised on his own. he has offered plans that tracked where he thought the final compromise would end up. the white house figured that by being list is us to they would win goodwill own the other side and even if they didn't, the media would come to their side realizing they sought compromise in the same place and been rebuffed by republicans. the white house does not believe that any more. probably the key lesson they took from the last couple of years is this. do not negotiate with yourself. if republicans want it cut medicare, let them propose the cuts. if they want it raise revenue through tax reform as opposed to marginal rates, let them tell you with what they want it eliminate. if they want deeper cuts to discretionary spending, let them give you a number. above all, if they don't like your policies, let them propose their own. that way if the white house does give in to hire demands, the republicans would feel lik
. >> boehner's surprise is in part because this is a different obama he is now negotiating with. and it is not just that obama won an election. he has often compromised on his own. he has offered plans that tracked where he thought the final compromise would end up. the white house figured that by being list is us to they would win goodwill own the other side and even if they didn't, the media would come to their side realizing they sought compromise in the same place and been rebuffed by...
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president obama held a press conference this week in which he said it was the republicans holding the country hostage. meanwhile, republicans have tried to make this a household word, obamaquester. john boehner really wanted to lay the sequester at the feet of the president, the obamaquester, they want you to call it. it might have worked if it were true. the daily beast uncovered this power point slide from a year and a half ago, using it to try to sell republicans on the sequester deal. this power point presentation boasting about all the ways that sequestration was good for republicans, and how they, republicans should vote for it because there was a lot to like, because it look, sets up a new sequestration process to cut spending across the board. we like that. vote for that. maybe we should call it the boehnerquester, the quester of the house? maybe the p-90x quester. at the same time boehner was giving his power point presentation telling republicans they had to go along with it, paul ryan was bragging to fox news that this was a win for republicans and conservatives. >> what co
president obama held a press conference this week in which he said it was the republicans holding the country hostage. meanwhile, republicans have tried to make this a household word, obamaquester. john boehner really wanted to lay the sequester at the feet of the president, the obamaquester, they want you to call it. it might have worked if it were true. the daily beast uncovered this power point slide from a year and a half ago, using it to try to sell republicans on the sequester deal. this...
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give john boehner credit. i fault boehner for letting it go this far but not for trying to keep the caucus together. it couldn't be done in the face of stubbornness which put their party and the cause before the country. >> i disagree with that. maybe i'm wrong but isn't the job of leadership to tell their party and guide them and tell them the limitations of strategic ambitions and say, hey, listen, we won't be able to defund obama care through this and it makes no sense to try do it. why was boehner at the whims of his party? >> if i can speak to his leadership style -- >> these are -- >> we haven't seen people like this in the house since the no-nothings in 1840. and boehner was dealt a bad hand. they are not interested in anything but their own ideology and they are willing to put it in front of the country. that's what they have done. it would have been better for the republicans if this never happen and better for the country. but boehner did what he had to do and stood up to the right wing. >> we have a
give john boehner credit. i fault boehner for letting it go this far but not for trying to keep the caucus together. it couldn't be done in the face of stubbornness which put their party and the cause before the country. >> i disagree with that. maybe i'm wrong but isn't the job of leadership to tell their party and guide them and tell them the limitations of strategic ambitions and say, hey, listen, we won't be able to defund obama care through this and it makes no sense to try do it....
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. ♪ >>> while president obama's air strikes received support from leaders on the right john boehner and marco rubio, republicans seeking to join them in congress are taking the opposite approach. >> radical islamic terrorists are threatening to cause the collapse of our country. president obama and senator shaheen seem confused about the nature of the threat. not me. i want to secure the border, keep out the people that would do us harm, and restore america's leadership in the world. >> over in the lower chamber, the house republican campaign arm is back to war on terror fear mongering as a tactic to take out vulnerable democrats. >> we all know the growing threat we face today. >> are they coming for us? they are actively working to come for us. >> isis is no fringe terrorist group. >> these fighters could bring a significant threat to our home land. >> what we don't know is why congressman rick nolan voted to release terrorists held at guantanamo bay. >> joining me, senior editor and chief of mother jones. david, the partisanship lives to fight another day. scott brown wants to secure
. ♪ >>> while president obama's air strikes received support from leaders on the right john boehner and marco rubio, republicans seeking to join them in congress are taking the opposite approach. >> radical islamic terrorists are threatening to cause the collapse of our country. president obama and senator shaheen seem confused about the nature of the threat. not me. i want to secure the border, keep out the people that would do us harm, and restore america's leadership in the...
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he delivered the plan to speaker boehner, a plan pretty much identical to the one president obama just won the election on. you might have thought that would have been leading, the problem would have been solved. not so much. >> flabbergasted. i looked at him, you can't be serious. i've just never seen anything like it. >> so when you said you wanted to be led, you just wanted a plan, that was a joke? so the white house agreed, then, no more leading, that was not what their partners in the house of representatives wanted. instead, white house and boehner entered into intense lengthy negotiations. and by the end of them they seemed really close to a deal. the white house had agreed to cut their tax ask by about 400 billion, to increase their spending cuts by another 400 billion and only ask for about half as much stimulus. they moved toward boehner by more than a trillion dollars. that was a lot of concessions from the team that had just won the election big. and they made them because they thought boehner was ready to say yes, the fiscal cliff would be averted, we'd have a good christm
he delivered the plan to speaker boehner, a plan pretty much identical to the one president obama just won the election on. you might have thought that would have been leading, the problem would have been solved. not so much. >> flabbergasted. i looked at him, you can't be serious. i've just never seen anything like it. >> so when you said you wanted to be led, you just wanted a plan, that was a joke? so the white house agreed, then, no more leading, that was not what their partners...